Reference point

Sitting in a meeting and there is talk about bad roads, long drives, primitive conditions, only one lightbulb/ school etc.

My question: do you have to travel by 4WD? 

Anvers: no, but it's bumpy and primitive.

Me: well,that's manageble. The roads aren't that bad then. I clearly have a new point of refence when it comes to roads in bad condition.